Jim Rogers Packs His Bags

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And if you pull a double one
I’ll pack my bags and I’ll be gone
If you pull a three and four
I’m flying off to Singapore
Where women dance and tigers roar
I’m lying on a distant shore
I’m living life as fast as I can
A nod, a wink, another drink I am the domino man.
-The Beautiful South, “Domino Man”

Jim Rogers is getting out. Of the United States, that is. Fortune Magazine managed to interview the 65-year-old legendary investor and author while he was making final preparations for his move from Manhattan to Singapore. The following excerpts are from CNN Money on Christmas Eve:

You mention the possibility that we might go into a depression. What is your assessment of the U.S. economy right now?
In my view, the U.S. economy is in recession. I know the government says we’re not. But as I look around, we know that automobiles are in worse than recession. The same thing is true for homebuilders. Much of the financial sector is in worse than recession. So many parts of America are in worse than recession, and yet the government says we’re not in a recession. I don’t know what’s so strong that it’s offsetting these major weaknesses in the American economy. I just assume that the government is lying.

A few months ago you said if Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke cut interest rates in response to the credit crunch, it would be “pure madness” and “a disaster.” He did. What do you think now?
We have terrible inflation in America, not according to the government but according to people who buy things. We have the dollar under terrible duress. What I said was, if they cut interest rates it’s going to be a signal to the rest of the world that we don’t care about the dollar, that we want the dollar to go down. That is what has happened. The rest of the world has read the signal very clearly. Inflation, of course, is going up. Commodities prices go higher in this kind of scenario. I think it’s a terrible mistake. It may be good for Wall Street. It may bail a few people out. But it’s not good for America. I will tell you that I was terrified recently when I saw Bernanke testifying before Congress, and he said that if an American buys only American products in American currency he is not affected by the decline in the U.S. dollar. I couldn’t believe the man said that! I was looking at him to see - Is he lying? Is he just using government propaganda? Or does the man just not know? He’s supposed to be an economist, and he doesn’t know how the economy works! Let’s say you only buy American tires. Well, if the price of foreign tires goes up because the dollar goes down, the price of American tires is going to go up too. American companies are going to raise the prices if the competition goes higher. And if the dollar goes down, the price of the rubber in the tires is going to go higher. The price of oil, wheat, copper, everything is going to go higher if the dollar goes down. So it’s another signal to get out of the dollar.

You’ve been betting against U.S. commercial and investment banks for some time. Are you still shorting their stocks? Are you making other moves?
I am still short Citigroup. I’m still short Fannie Mae. I’m still short homebuilders. And I just increased my short positions on the investment banks last week, because that’s where the excesses have been in the U.S. economy. There have not been excesses in sugar farming in the past 30 years. There have not been excesses in silver mining. The excesses have been on Wall Street. That’s why I’m shorting Wall Street. You see 29-year-old kids making $10 million or $20 million a year and thinking, “This is the way the world is. This is normal.” Well, I don’t think it’s normal.

Why move to Singapore and not Shanghai or Beijing?
Well, we would like to move to China, but the air is so terrible, the pollution is so bad, that we can’t bring ourselves to do it. Everything works in Singapore. It’s an astonishing place. It’s got the best education system in the world. It’s got the best health care in the world. And it’s Chinese-speaking. Our 4-year-old daughter, Happy, goes to a school where they only speak Chinese. One of our motivations was that she continue to speak Chinese. It may not be as exciting as Shanghai or New York, but it’s exciting enough for me.

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Downtown Singapore

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